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flippet ([personal profile] flippet) wrote2011-03-10 09:25 pm

More general House thoughts

 Okay, so I finally saw the Friedman/Hess vlog.  (It was taking too long to load a couple of nights ago.)


I'm kind of upset, but perhaps not for the expected reason.  

I'm upset not because yeah, it looks like the H/C romantic relationship is over.  Rather, I'm upset because of how casually and cavalierly the writers seemed to approach the whole thing - and how *wrong* they got it.  

I'll try to explain myself, but I feel I'm a bit scattered tonight.  Here goes anyway.

Basically - they went - oh, let's explore who House is in a relationship.

So they put him in a relationship.  A relationship.  A typical 'relationship'.  Because wheee, won't that be fun, because House is such an a-hole (Sara's words) that he'd never do well in a relationship, could never keep it going, because Cuddy deserves so much better than the jerk that House is.

This pisses me off because, House and Cuddy were already in a 25-year-long relationship.  A relationship that worked for them, that was dysfunctionally functional.

And the writers took them out of that relationship, and put them into a typical, girl's-not-getting-what-she-wants-and-needs-from-a-guy kind of relationship, that was essentially unrecognizable from the kind of relationship they already had.


They said 'okay, we're gonna start it *here*, and end it round about *here*' - completely NOT taking into account whatever growth and change might happen along the way.  Yeah yeah yeah, you're saying 'well, but they're writing (or not) that growth and change, surely they'll limit that to make it logical.'  I don't know.  

I think that the writers are seeing these characters in a very different way from how the viewers are seeing them.  And if the writers think that what they're putting on paper is how this character is, then Hugh is fucking up royally - he's putting much more humanity into House than the writers intended.  

From listening to Hess and Friedman - it sounds to me like they're saying that House is such an organic jerk that a relationship would be impossible for him - basically, that jerks don't deserve love.  

But my problem with that is a) frankly, they're wrong, and b) Hugh doesn't play House like a completely unmitigated asshole from A to Z.  He puts nuance in, he puts sympathy in.  And I would argue that if someone's behaving like an overtired, hungry, cranky toddler, perhaps what they need is MORE love and understanding, not less.



So that's my rant for the evening.  I don't know if I got across everything I was thinking.  I've had some alcohol, so.


But yeah.  That would explain why Cuddy especially was so unrecognizable.  This wasn't House and Cuddy, expanded.  This was Relationship!House and Relationship!Cuddy - similar only in surface appearance.  :-P

[identity profile] mauje.livejournal.com 2011-03-11 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what is so baffling to me. If they'd just left it all alone - let us believe that they knew what they were doing, even if we didn't like it...

I keep trying to keep myself from believing this was all planned as a means to throw us off course.

The perfectly timed release of the DS interview, right after the show, that said H/C were completely over. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that *immediately* after a show's airing. Kicking fans when they're down and emotional, twisting the knife even further.

Then GY, who I *know* is notorious for being a jackass and egging people on (honestly, in some cases I can't blame him) saying things like #RIPHuddy and throwing out random "clues".

I'm just really torn.

On the surface, it really seems like they took pleasure in kicking us while we're down which sucks. But if it is some type of coordinated effort to throw us off, then I don't like that either. I feel like they should just let the show speak for itself instead of trying to get cutesy and clever with the fans.



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[personal profile] hooloovoo_42 2011-03-11 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the problem when shows start interacting with the fans. The rise of twitter and blogs has made this easier.

But if the showrunners want to screw with the fans, they have to accept the fans saying "sod this, you're a bunch of jerks, we're off". Are they trying to blow up the show? If so, they just need to get Charlie Sheen in as guest patient of the week and wave bye-bye to everything.

[identity profile] flippet.livejournal.com 2011-03-11 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
On the surface, it really seems like they took pleasure in kicking us while we're down which sucks. But if it is some type of coordinated effort to throw us off, then I don't like that either. I feel like they should just let the show speak for itself instead of trying to get cutesy and clever with the fans.


This, exactly!

Either way, it's ugly, and it makes me rather disgusted with them.



Then GY, who I *know* is notorious for being a jackass and egging people on (honestly, in some cases I can't blame him) saying things like #RIPHuddy and throwing out random "clues".


GY has never bothered me, really. I usually find him amusing, and I think it's funny that some fans think a) since GY's talking to fans, that he's supposed to be their buddy, and b) they can be bitchy-as-you-please to him, but he's never supposed to retaliate. It's high entertainment.

But the sheer viciousness of this week's attacks has indeed made me quite confused.



It's like they're all angry with us for daring to enjoy their work or something.

[identity profile] mauje.livejournal.com 2011-03-12 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
GY has never bothered me, really. I usually find him amusing, and I think it's funny that some fans think a) since GY's talking to fans, that he's supposed to be their buddy, and b) they can be bitchy-as-you-please to him, but he's never supposed to retaliate. It's high entertainment.

Definitely.

I was always amused by the reaction to his original comments on the beach photos/script.

Seeing people get ~personally offended~ over what was obviously a joke was comical. Some can't seem to comprehend that they play right into his hands with their reactions.

There's also the sense of entitlement that runs pretty heavily through some fringes of the fandom that can provide some quality entertainment when you're in the mood for it.